I have to be very honest with you. I’m a little nervous.
As you may have noticed from the picture above and from the title, the June challenge put to the Daring Bakers by our hosts Quellia of All Things Edible and Freya of Writing at the Kitchen Table is bagels.
Eeek!
Why so nervous, you ask?
Bagels scare me. Bagel purists scare me. People who raise their eyebrows and sneer when you tell them where you buy your bagels scare me. I have never known a carboydrate that causes as much acrimony and dissent. I have seen lifeling friends practically come to blows over bagels.
So please, be gentle with me. Here is my bagel story.
When I first read the challenge and the recipe, I felt scared (see above), but also hopeful. I’d made bagels once before in my Breakfast Breads baking class so I’m somewhat familiar with the process.
On the morning that I made my bagels, I began by proofing the yeast in warm water sweetened with honey. I did not use hot water as directed because I’ve learned in my baking courses that hot water can damage and kill yeast. After ten minutes of proofing, the yeast was foamy, creamy and you could definitely smell it.
As directed by the recipe, I then added three cups of flour and the salt. However, I was careful to cover the yeast with the flour first and then sprinkle the salt on the flour. Another tip that we picked up in baking class is that salt added directly to yeast can drastically reduce the yeast’s effectiveness and even kill it. Unlike sugar, which yeast feeds on, salt alters the yeast’s ability to work properly. So if you’re adding flour and salt to yeast, be sure to add the flour first as a buffer.
At this point I removed my watch and and my ring and I got right into it! When people tell me that they don’t like to bake, I always think of this moment. Anyone who sinks their hands into a creamy, floury mixture just waiting to be turned into a dough will immediately feel the joy of baking! Keeping one hand clean (as Quellia recommends), I used the other hand to work in the flour and salt. After a minute or two I had a mushy, wet, yeasty blob! I love mushy, wet, yeasty blobs!!!
At this point, I began adding the remainder of the flour to my blob one cup at a time. As the mixture became drier, I reduced the flour to about half a cup at a time. Once I’d incorporated about six cups of flour, I had to remove my blob from the bowl and begin working it on the well-floured counter. I stopped adding flour after I added about seven and a quarter cups. I felt that the blob was sufficiently dry and I was ready to knead.
I won’t wax poetic about kneading … again. You all know how much I love it. Let’s just say I spent the following ten minutes getting a great upper body workout as I worked my blob into a beautiful dough!
Quellia and Freya’s recipe indicated that the dough should be placed in a well oiled bowl and allowed to rise until doubled in size. I would have preferred that the recipe also give a timeframe for that (“… until doubled in size, which should take an hour to an hour and a half …”), but that became a moot point when my dough absolutely ballooned after only thirty minutes!
In fact, this is what my dough looked like after thirty-five minutes.
Well there’s no rest for the wicked (or weary) so I got right down to forming those bagels! I placed a large pot of water to boil and then added malt syrup.
The recipe indicated that the bagel yield would be 15. Well I looked at this massive piece of dough and envisioned 15 bagel cakes growing right out of my oven. If I’d only divided it into 15 bagels they would have been huge. Instead, I divided my dough into six pieces and then further divided those six pieces.
I decided to try both ways of forming a bagel. For the first few bagels, I rolled dough into a round and then poked a hole in the middle with my finger. I then used two fingers to roll the dough around making the hole in the centre bigger.
For the second formation method, I rolled a piece of dough into a rope and then joined the ends rolling them slightly so that they held together. I eventually settled on this method and formed most of my bagels this way. After forming the bagels, I let them sit for ten minutes before heading to the malt/water bath.
When we made bagels in baking class, we boiiled them for a few seconds. But this recipe requires that you boil the bagels for three minutes on each side. I found this part of the recipe a bit confusing because my bagels went in nice and smooth but came out a bit lumpy and not so pretty. But never one to argue with a Daring Baker challenge, I perservered.
After all my bagels were boiled, I began the fun part of the recipe: how do I top them bagels???
I chose four options: the classic poppyseed, the yummy sesame seed, the even yummier caraway seed with Maldon salt and the not-so-traditional Cheddar cheese. To customize the bagels, I made a wash of egg white and water, which I brushed on to the boiled bagels. Then, each bagel met its topping fate.
The recipe indicated that the bagels should be baked at 400 degrees F. for 25 minutes and then turned and baked for an additional ten minutes. But I found that my first batch of bagels almost burned. So I reduced the oven temperature to 390 degrees F. and baked them for 20 minutes on one side and five minutes on the other side.
The end result was mixed for me. My bagels certainly didn’t look like bagels. This worried me a bit as I could already hear the snickers and criticism. They weren’t puffy like bagels should be. Or at least that’s how I think bagels should be. I think this is my fault in that I divided my bagel dough too much. In other words, I made too many small bagels when the recipe was meant to yield fewer and larger bagels.
I also suspect that the ten minutes of resting time the bagels need between being formed and boiled isn’t enough. I think that I would probably let them rest for 20 minutes should I make these again. This would give the bagels more time to rise.
So appearance-wise, I wasn’t too happy. But taste was another matter altogether.
These bagels were delicious! The exterior was firm but not hard and definitely yielded to the bite. The interior was bready and soft. Once they were cool, we immediately sat down and enjoyed them in our favourite way: with smoked salmon and cream cheese.
My personal favourite were the caraway seed and Maldon salt-topped bagels. I had this combination in one of my baking classes where we made bread topped with caraway and salt. I fell in love with it and often find myself craving it. I thought these bagels were delicious.
And as far as the disappointing disappearance goes, I must admit that the Cheddar cheese-topped bagels didn’t look all that bad. (Stop sneering at me!!!)
All in all, it was a very pleasant June challenge. I made bagels on my own for the first time and while my bagels will not be impressing any of the purists any time soon, we certainly enjoyed them.
I think I acquitted myself admirabley. I just hope that no one who knows me and recognizes me will be throwing bagels at me!
Ciao!
Please check Quellia’s post for the recipe we used.
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59 comments
breadchick
Ivonne! What a riot!! You and I were “channeling” each other with our post titles!!! I can’t think of any other baker I would rather share space in that other plane of existence with!! Now where are those people who sneer at you?? I’ll kick their…um…that isn’t very Daring Baker like is it? Great Post and I love the cheddar bagels.
kickpleat
I think the bagels look perfect! i love montreal style bagels and i find the fluffy ones found in grocery stores completely bland, so this looks like a pretty wonderful recipe!
Deborah
Well, if I ever make bagels, I sure am glad I read your post!! That’s actually a good tidbit to learn about the yeast and hot water, and the yeast and salt….
Beautiful bagels!!
heather
I wish I would have done the cheese. Cheese bagels are my favorite, but I just wasn’t sure about the cheddar. Did these ones taste divine??
I think they all look great! Mine did the same funny thing when I boiled them too.
Kat
they look great to me! good job!
Anne
love reading your post…and your bagels are simply perfect!
JennDZ - The Leftover Queen
Your bagel story sounds very much like mine! I love your cheddar cheese version. I am sure they were wonderful!
Jenny
Your bagels look lovely and I’m so glad you enjoyed them!
I would have liked a bit better instructions on some things myself but this was the best recipe I’d found for us. Oh well, it all worked in the end!
Lisa
I would beat up any purist who snickered or sneered at your beautiful bagels!! Who says that bagels have to be perfectly round, smooth and poofy? Your bagels are just as gorgeous and incredibly yummy looking!
And although they all look mighty tasty.. those cheddar ones have my heart doing a lil pitter patter.
xoxo
MyKitchenInHalfCups
Ha, just show me anybody snickering,I’ll show you somebody on the floor!
You are spot on with the technique questions I had with this recipe! Great that they were tasty!
Now, Ivonne – we wait for July’s challenge!
Jenny
Lovely presentation as always, and I’m right there with you, gleefully digging my hands into the dough. *Happy sigh*
Sara
Great post Ivonne, I especially like your tips you learned in your class. I will be making bagels again and I will keep your words in mind. Those cheese bagels look amazing! I wish I’d thought of that.
sher
I’m so impressed at your ability with the snake method. It was a total failure for me. I’m a finger poker. And that dough sure did rise quickly–it took me by surprise alrighty! You bagels look fabulous!
ilva
How I love the bowl with the risen (?) dough, it looks like a pregnant tummy! And the bagels look great!
Ivonne's Tartelette (!)
Purists or not…they are homemade..thus have that undefined quality of good and comforting…They look beatiful!
Meeta
Ivonne the bagels look great especially the ones with the caraway seeds and look at that risen dough. It did rise fast – I too was surprised about the way it easily rose. Those tips you put up from your class are going to be helpful for me – because I now have no fears about yeast! (OK maybe still just a little!)
peabody
Wow, yours were flat. So strange how everyone of us got some different results.
I love all your choice of toppings!
Mary
It never occurred to me that my bumpy fossilized bagels could be the result of boiling them too long. That’s why I love these challenges. I learn so much from everyone else’s experiences w/ the same recipe. I really like your mini bagels. They are the perfect snack size.
The Cooking Ninja
To me, they turned out beautifully and deliciously.
Laura
Yummy bagels Ivonne I’ll be keeping your baking tips in mind when I make them again. I’m going to get my little one to join in this time so she can get her hands nice and sticky!
Pasticciera
Brava Cream Puff Brava!
I remember you telling me with awe, but you make your own bagels?!…Now you have too. You might try monitoring your water (70*F) and internal temperature of your dough (75* F) to give you a bit more control of the rising time. Nancy Silverton of “La Brea Bakery” gives exhaustive information about temperatures and rising times, as well as Peter Reinhart of “The Apprentice Baker” for a good read and getting a handle on breads. They’re both good references, but I think you are well on your own way. Brava!
Nicisme
All these bagle posts are brilliant – I love the toppings and the one with the smoked salmon – wow!
baking soda
Caraway and salt…yum! The boiling confused me a bit too, but i don’t think size matters (not in this case..) your bagels should puff whether small or large. We had the same experience in oven time/temperature and reduced time and temperature for the next batches.
Congrats on completing this challenge!
Inne
Ivonne, your bagels look beautiful – ‘artisanal’ is the word I’d use. I would be wary of things that look exactly the same, because who knows what strange substances are added to get that identikit effect!
I totally agree with you about the kneading, isn’t it just the best way to let off steam?
Peter
It looks like you did quite well with the bagels and I’m sure they tasted great. A standout for me is your poppy seed bagel with the smoked salmon….when can I come over?
veron
Aw…those are the cutest bagels. I was skeptical about putting the yeast in hot water so I waited till I can stick my finger in it before putting that in. I did not know that the salt would reduce yeast effectivity, so that is very useful information. I do agree about kneading…it seems to be therapeautic!
Cheryl
Your bagels look just fine to me. I love the tips you gave from your baking class. I will definitely remember those. I will be right over for a cheddar cheese one.
brilynn
The smoked salmon and cream cheese has me drooling…
Maria
Thanks for the great post. I learned a lot about bagel making. And yours look great and if they tasted great, even better:)
leslie
Wow – those look great! I wish I’d had the presence of mind to think of cheese – I love the way those look. And smoked salmon? You had me at the word smoked. Yummmmmmy!
Paz
Very, very impressive! Job well done!
Paz
Karen Lim
I made bagels couple of weeks back – not too puffy as well but yours look much lovelier. Anyway, do look it up if you want : http://diaryofkayel.blogspot.com/search?q=bagels
Looking forward to see more of your lovely posts!
Karen Lim
I made bagels couple of weeks back – not too puffy as well but yours look much lovelier. Anyway, do look it up if you want : http://diaryofkayel.blogspot.com/2007/06/bagels.htmlLooking forward to see more of your lovely posts!
Ash
Yum! I have a big party to cater for tomorrow at the kids’ school and I already have 70 doughnuts made up and ready to fry. I wonder if I should make some bagels too, they’re not really common here so they would be such a treat!
connie
i think you did a great job! the bagel sandwhich looks great
Nazca
Look good to me. Love the pic of the ball of dough
I imagined that would happen with so much yeast in there.
Well done
Kelly-Jane
Great post Ivonne
Love your pics too, the one of the risen dough in the bowl is somehow beautiful and of course your bagels too!
Steen
Wow! I’ve been travelling around the various Daring Baker sites checking out the bagels and I have to say your photos (and your bagels) look gorgeous! Kudos!
Orchidea
They are perfect! I like them with smoked salmon… and now I understand why many blogs had bagels recipe. You asked me recently if I wanted to partecipate to “Daring Bakers” and I says YES but I did not receive any email about this… I did not know otherwise I would have joined.
Ciao.
gilly
I love your bagels, Ivonne – and I’d have much rather have made mine a smaller size like yours. They look just right!
Jerry
I made cheddar ones also, and I liked them. Your bagels look lovely. I found with letting them rise longer, I still didn’t get them to sink. Maybe yours would have.
Amanda @ Little Foodies
Such fantastic pics Ivonne! My favourites are the crop of 4 where the yeast was proofing, etc and the big bowl of risen dough and the one with the smoked salmon – wonderful! My dough took less than 30 minutes to double in size too. I loved my first DB challenge.
Leann
I was afraid of bagels at one time, too, but I made some a few months ago and they were so much easier than I imagined. Your bagels are BEAUTIFUL… I wound up letting mine rest overnight in the refrigerator and boiling them the next morning for breakfast. They did well with the long rest.
Blessings!!!
Amy
Your bagels look delicious! I love the cheddar cheese one and the poppy seed bagel with that generous portion of smoked salmon. Yummy!
Glenna
Your bagels are beautiful, Ivonne. And I love the photo of the risen dough. It’s art.
Candace
Yvonne, I am dying to eat that caraway/salt bagel. So beautiful and crispy on top. And I love the new format. Very classy.
bea at La tartine gourmande
Fun fun story Ivonne. I would take the one with the salmon any day!
KJ
Hi Ivonne. I think smaller bagels would be better. You can try a lot more toppings and fillings that way. I think the cheese ones look yummy. I certainly wouldn’t be throwing them at you, I would be too busy eating them.
amy dawn rose
your bagels look wonderful- just as a montreal bagel should, ’cause everyone knows montreal bagels are the best!
Julia
Hi Ivonne, I am a long time admirer of your blog and first time poster here. We actually met once at a baking course at GBC (Art of Bread). Your bagels look absolutely perfect. It’s something I still have to concur!
I was looking for this malt syrup for a few months in Toronto and couldn’t find it. Finally, someone sent it to me from Europe, so i don’t have much of it. Where did you buy yours?
Thank you
Rosa
I’ve been baking bagels since a few years now and I find that yours look awesome! They are just as they should be, don’t worry. Perfect!
Nicole
Another wonderful ‘Daring Bakers’ read! I love to hear about your adventures and the photos this time are amazing! I’ve been reading through some bagel recipes in my baking books lately, trying to work up some courage!
Chocolate Chipped
Wow–I am so impressed with you! These bagels look amazing. I don’t know if I’ll ever be brave enough to attempt to make them myself, but OMG I want one!
Chris
Ivonne – Your bagels look great! I think I would like to try the small bagels next time…:)
Tea
I think they look wonderful–I like thinner, chewier bagels, rather than fat bready ones. The caraway and Maldon is a brilliant idea–I would love that flavor combo (just reading and I begin to crave it!).
I made bagels once, when I was living in Japan and missing them terribly. My favorite topping was a mixture of black sesame seeds and coarse salt, but I think the caraway sound even better… And the cheddar are just to pretty. Gorgeous photos as well!
Angie
Your blog is wonderful, your food pics are spectacular. You inspire me to bake/cook more.
ejm
Oh, I’m so sorry that I didn’t get to be a daring baker this month so I could have shown off that bagels are insanely easy to make. (heh, heh… easy for me to say that when I haven’t actually made any bagels for a while and if I HAD been a daring baker, my bagels would no doubt have failed miserably.)
While I’m not exactly a bagel expert, I must say that your bagels look very much like bagels to me, Yvonne! They look very much like the description of bagels on the page entitled “Real Honest Jewish Purist’s Bagels” (http://www.jewish-food.org/recipes/brea0007.htm)
-Elizabeth
P.S. My most recent bagel adventure was in September 2006:
http://etherwork.net/blog/?p=296
It’s HIGH time that I made bagels again….
Angelica
I was just about to post a comment about how you’ve inspired me to make bagels, when the lid of the box my dough is rising in popped off, making me jump. Anyway, thanks for the inspiration! :]
Di
I’ve run across your blog and your bagels look scrumptious and I’m sure they taste wonderful. You have inspired me to make bagels. I can understand what you mean about people snickering about the bagels.
As a native NY’er I hear comments about bagels all the time.
I love cooking and although I don’t write about it, I spend a lot of time speaking about it and sharing my goods with others.
I’ve enjoyed your blog.
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